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Thu, 16 April 2009 14:13   |
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Consider all options is the point.
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You could rob a bank, hold the doctor at gunpoint, take the money from your parents, steal from work, or.
You could go to school while working and better yourself, or have a second job, or start your own business, or collect drink bottles and return them for the deposit, or start a carpool, or reduce your expenses, or fix up your house and sell it, or write a book, or make art and sell it or many other worthwhile things that contribute to the betterment of society.
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| Re: FFS ideas on how to get funds ??? [message #56250 is a reply to message #56246 ] |
Thu, 16 April 2009 14:14 |
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| Erin D wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 16:31 |
Was wondering when you would chime in, knew you couldn't resist a opportunity to tell someone how they are wrong, just wouldn't be like you.
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Which is exactly what you likewise, just did.
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Anyways, as far as not contributing to society if you read my original reply on this thread you will note how I mentioned, if you had 3 hours free a day, so I should hope if you are only spending 3 hours a day panhandling that you would be contributing to society with a normal job during the rest of the day. As far as morality goes, remember that thread a bit ago about what we would do to pay for our transition costs? I recall some interesting responses, a good number of them being, "anything". Yet suddenly we are to full of pride and morals to panhandle.
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Some individuals said "anything". If you read the responses, the majority of responders did NOT say "anything". Your making up information to justify your position.
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You should go spend some time in Dallas. There's a really racial term referring to a animal that generally resides in trees in the jungle, and a porch, see if you can figure out which one it is.
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I'm a person of color. Please tell me what this term is that YOU are thinking of. I also notice that you are the only person in this thread to bring up race as a part of this conversation. Thats important to remember especially since the OP is also a woman of color.
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Anyways, go to Dallas, you will see what that term means. People sitting around doing nothing all day collecting welfare when they are perfectly healthy and capable of work, bums on corners who are in there late 20s, mentally sound, capable of work. Its not just Dallas of course, I just use that as a example cause I spent a long time down there and there's ALOT of that going on.
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You know about this from personal experience? So you were close enough to know this first hand? So you also participated in what you have described?
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3 hours a day panhandling to reach ones personal happiness and restore ones sanity seems a small dent to put in society compared to the numerous people who leach off it for no good reason at all other then pure laziness. In this economy transition costs are further and further out of reach for many of us. Consider all options is the point.
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You call people Leaches for doing exactly the same thing you are doing? You justify leaching because other people leach?
You need to rethink your life. Your going nowhere. And you will never be someone other people will respect and trust if all you are is just a user.
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| Re: FFS ideas on how to get funds ??? [message #56252 is a reply to message #40587 ] |
Thu, 16 April 2009 14:18 |
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My logic is simple. Do what you have to do to make yourself happy. Doesnt matter what it is you need to be happy, the fact remains. For those who can look past the lack of morality in panhandling, they can achieve their financial goals in this way fairly quickly. Or for those who are stuck at minimum wage jobs and have horrid credit. The simple fact is in this economy making enough money for transition is getting harder and harder, as I said before. Think outside the box, you could either a)spend years and years and years scrimping every penny you can from your minimum wage paycheck, or b)find alternatives to supplement the money your are making.
So yea, like I said. The whole point behind my suggestion was, look at every option. You constantly hear of T-girls jumping off bridges and eating a bottle of pills because they have no chance in hell of saving enough to go anywhere with transition. Wonder if they would have made that decision if they had looked past basic morality and seen options such as this one....
The fact that there are hundreds of others panhandling doesnt make it any better. But hey, at least your reasoning for doing it is far better then theres, you are in far greater need then they. Do they need 30 grand to be happy? Probably not, they could have a minimum wage job and support themselves just fine.
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| Re: FFS ideas on how to get funds ??? [message #56253 is a reply to message #56250 ] |
Thu, 16 April 2009 14:32 |
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[quote title=Anonymous wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 16:14]| Erin D wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 16:31 |
Was wondering when you would chime in, knew you couldn't resist a opportunity to tell someone how they are wrong, just wouldn't be like you.
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Which is exactly what you likewise, just did.
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Anyways, as far as not contributing to society if you read my original reply on this thread you will note how I mentioned, if you had 3 hours free a day, so I should hope if you are only spending 3 hours a day panhandling that you would be contributing to society with a normal job during the rest of the day. As far as morality goes, remember that thread a bit ago about what we would do to pay for our transition costs? I recall some interesting responses, a good number of them being, "anything". Yet suddenly we are to full of pride and morals to panhandle.
Some individuals said "anything". If you read the responses, the majority of responders did NOT say "anything". Your making up information to justify your position.
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I didnt say anything about majority, I said a good number of them, quit getting excited and pay attention before quoting someone.
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You should go spend some time in Dallas. There's a really racial term referring to a animal that generally resides in trees in the jungle, and a porch, see if you can figure out which one it is.
I'm a person of color. Please tell me what this term is that YOU are thinking of. I also notice that you are the only person in this thread to bring up race as a part of this conversation. Thats important to remember especially since the OP is also a woman of color.
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That was rather typical. YOU PEOPLE? I never gave any colors did I? I could be referring to white, purple, pink, blue, green, black, brown, whatever people I want. Dont start the you people thing, its really redundant.
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Anyways, go to Dallas, you will see what that term means. People sitting around doing nothing all day collecting welfare when they are perfectly healthy and capable of work, bums on corners who are in there late 20s, mentally sound, capable of work. Its not just Dallas of course, I just use that as a example cause I spent a long time down there and there's ALOT of that going on.
You know about this from personal experience? So you were close enough to know this first hand? So you also participated in what you have described?
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I know this from living in Oak Cliff, Dallas' notorious poverty sector, and walking down the street daily on my way to jobs or the library or the store, whatever, and seeing them, so yea, personal experience. Sorry I had to live in the ghetto and get close to them.
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3 hours a day panhandling to reach ones personal happiness and restore ones sanity seems a small dent to put in society compared to the numerous people who leach off it for no good reason at all other then pure laziness. In this economy transition costs are further and further out of reach for many of us. Consider all options is the point.
You call people Leaches for doing exactly the same thing you are doing? You justify leaching because other people leach?
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I justify leaching off other people when you have a better reason then pure laziness.
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You need to rethink your life. Your going nowhere. And you will never be someone other people will respect and trust if all you are is just a user.
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You have a very odd way of picking apart a reply. You hear what you want to hear, completely jaded to the truth of what was being said. Next time pay attention to what I am saying and dont mutate it into what you wish to hear.
As far as respect? Hah, I went from making 1000 a week working for myself, to 500 a week working for myself when the economy tanked, then nothing. Now I am working as a dishwasher making 8 a hour, and I am perfectly happy, at least I am working.
Trust? Thats grand, I have been in a state of transit since last November living on the generosity of others seeking a place to live that I can afford and has work. Ask some of the people who have let me crash on their couch since then about trust and honesty.
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| Re: FFS ideas on how to get funds ??? [message #56260 is a reply to message #40587 ] |
Thu, 16 April 2009 15:18 |
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Practically, no. Personally, yes.
Everyone I meet who knows I am trans (incognito right now) says the same thing. WTF do you want FFS for? Apparently the giant beard I have right now is a thin disguise to those who know me otherwise.
Personally however, I want to get my nose done definitely. I think that spawns more from the disdain one feels from seeing the same thing in the mirror even through transition. Don't really think I will need anything else, I mean, I am not on meds right now and I shave the beard and pass with flying colors. Seems the only way to truly change who you see in the mirror is to actually change it in some form. Or at least that is how it works for me.
Stay tuned, I was going to shave ye ol beard for Pride day in June or whenever it is in Denver. Was going to make a still frame slide show video of the transformation, its pretty funny in its own right. Was going to do numerous shots of the beard slowly going away, then a minimal amount of makeup being applied, tada! Should be good for a few laughs if anything else.
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| Re: FFS ideas on how to get funds ??? [message #56274 is a reply to message #56267 ] |
Thu, 16 April 2009 18:57 |
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| Erin D wrote on Thu, 16 April 2009 14:30 |
Want some real backwards logic? Ok, you say "sigh, kids" and yet your responding to something that I was trying to end that was clearly getting outta hand. Who's acting like a kid?
But here I am replying to your reply so that essentially makes me no better. Backwards logic at its finest.
FIN, END, NO MAS,
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Item the first: You indeed appear in favor of ending things — once you've had the last word.
Item the second: The concept of 'anything goes as long as it brings you happiness' is DANGEROUS at best and INSANE at worst. Life experience will provide all the evidence required to support my assertion.
Item the third: You did not rebut, you provided an enhanced repetition of your original argument without responding to Teresa.
Item the fourth: As far as I'm concerned, do anything you like to attain happiness as long as:
A) No one is being harmed.
B) Everyone is capable of informed consent.
Erin, your concept of 'simple logic' has tremendous appeal to me. I am, fundamentally, a simple person. But I simply cannot agree with — nor allow to pass without comment — a statement such as:
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Do what you have to do to make yourself happy. Doesnt matter what it is you need to be happy ...
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And with that I hereby yield the podium and bid you good evening with the following weather report. Hey, you asked! 
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So, how bout that weather?
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| Re: FFS ideas on how to get funds ??? [message #127857 is a reply to message #67176 ] |
Sat, 15 January 2011 17:22 |
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I'm getting FFS done in March. It's a scary decision. It's like the old me is dying. But I look forward to the new me!
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| Re: FFS ideas on how to get funds ??? [message #127909 is a reply to message #127904 ] |
Sun, 16 January 2011 11:08 |
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| Wendy C wrote on Sun, 16 January 2011 11:40 | | Anonymous wrote on Sat, 15 January 2011 20:22 | I'm getting FFS done in March. It's a scary decision. It's like the old me is dying. But I look forward to the new me!
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Congratulations on a big step forward to being and accepting yourself for who you are. It is the one thing that other people take for granted which is why they don't understand why we have to make these decisions.
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To feel normal is something everyone takes for granted, but for us it is the "Holy Grail"
Each and every step of our journey becomes scary, but as we move forward we obtain the peace we should have been allowed to experience in the first place. It is scary moving into the next stage of the unknown, but as you look back at the stages you've been through, you tend to wonder why!
Yes, apart of the old you is dying, but is it a bad thing? Was it ever really you? Give yourself the permission to let it die, so you can enjoy who you really are!
Congratulations on your decision to become who you really need to be! May the peace and tranquility help follow you through your next stage!!!
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| Re: FFS ideas on how to get funds ??? [message #128018 is a reply to message #127909 ] |
Mon, 17 January 2011 09:28 |
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For a very young transitioner the "Holy Grail of feeling normal" can actually be achieved it seems to me, but for an older transitioner feelings of normalcy come and go. It is not possible to simply erase one's life prior to transition. Most memories are burnt/etched upon one's soul.
But certainly a slice of bread is better than no bread at all.
Of course all of these feelings are subjective and nebulous.
I suppose that when one is released from prison joy would envelope you, the scars live-on though.
Happy endings can only be promised in movies and story books. Reach for the stars, perhaps you will reach the moon.
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| Re: FFS ideas on how to get funds ??? [message #128053 is a reply to message #127857 ] |
Mon, 17 January 2011 15:35 |
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| Anonymous wrote on Sat, 15 January 2011 20:22 | I'm getting FFS done in March. It's a scary decision. It's like the old me is dying. But I look forward to the new me!
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No question it's a scary decision to undergo FFS. Even scarier for me was the moment a nurse anesthestist said "...we're ready to go Ms. (my name). Please count back from 10 for me." I think I got to nine, then woke up 10 hours later in the recovery room.
I'm just two years post-FFS. Without a doubt it was a good decision and money well spent.
Though the final results may take some time, I hope your expectations are exceeded.
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| Re: FFS ideas on how to get funds ??? [message #128621 is a reply to message #127909 ] |
Sat, 22 January 2011 12:03 |
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| Diana wrote on Sun, 16 January 2011 14:08 | | Wendy C wrote on Sun, 16 January 2011 11:40 | | Anonymous wrote on Sat, 15 January 2011 20:22 | I'm getting FFS done in March. It's a scary decision. It's like the old me is dying. But I look forward to the new me!
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Congratulations on a big step forward to being and accepting yourself for who you are. It is the one thing that other people take for granted which is why they don't understand why we have to make these decisions.
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To feel normal is something everyone takes for granted, but for us it is the "Holy Grail"
Each and every step of our journey becomes scary, but as we move forward we obtain the peace we should have been allowed to experience in the first place. It is scary moving into the next stage of the unknown, but as you look back at the stages you've been through, you tend to wonder why!
Yes, apart of the old you is dying, but is it a bad thing? Was it ever really you? Give yourself the permission to let it die, so you can enjoy who you really are!
Congratulations on your decision to become who you really need to be! May the peace and tranquility help follow you through your next stage!!!
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Thank you (and to everyone else for your thoughts)......
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| Re: FFS ideas on how to get funds ??? [message #154603 is a reply to message #40587 ] |
Sat, 24 December 2011 20:31 |
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@ happy endings, your sensitive and your post, though sorrowful helps me feel better on this cold night. Poverty is poverty, work, college graduations, heart and will, The world imposes it's standards. To be identified as this and not that, is to have nothing. No chances, no forgiveness, no hope as the chronometer speeds and one goes speeding to the furthest stars lost forever, _your_ destination adrift as the ones that plan, that can, that had or have and continue to go; never exploring the wrecked drifting dimly illuminated life, barely noticing all that is...once burned bright and fast: beautiful and unaware, lovable yet unconvinced - she stood. Alone against gray skies, her barren fate obvious to all - the stars my destination - survival among the stars her consolation.
a girl
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