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New School for LGBT Students Opens in California [message #92547] Fri, 05 March 2010 07:52 Go to next message
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Check this out and tell us what you think!!!!
http://sdgln.com/news/2010/02/24/charter-school-lgbt-youth-o pens-la
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Re: New School for LGBT Students Opens in California [message #92564 is a reply to message #92547 ] Fri, 05 March 2010 09:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: New School for LGBT Students Opens in California [message #92606 is a reply to message #92564 ] Fri, 05 March 2010 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Cynthialee wrote on Fri, 05 March 2010 12:41
finaly!

Zounds, I love your new Signature avatar. Some people are so creative.
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Re: New School for LGBT Students Opens in California [message #92607 is a reply to message #92547 ] Fri, 05 March 2010 13:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: New School for LGBT Students Opens in California [message #92617 is a reply to message #92547 ] Fri, 05 March 2010 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Although there is no traditional campus and students study independently at home, other staples of high school life, such as field trips, student council and a prom, will still be available.


No classrooms or in person teachers. Why not just study from the computer then and do away with all schools.

The research shows charter schools are no better than traditional schools. But if you never fit in with society, being separated from it does not make things much better.
Re: New School for LGBT Students Opens in California [message #92624 is a reply to message #92617 ] Fri, 05 March 2010 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lisagurl wrote on Fri, 05 March 2010 12:20
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Although there is no traditional campus and students study independently at home, other staples of high school life, such as field trips, student council and a prom, will still be available.


No classrooms or in person teachers. Why not just study from the computer then and do away with all schools.

The research shows charter schools are no better than traditional schools. But if you never fit in with society, being separated from it does not make things much better.

You're ignoring the face time built into the program.

And since the Internet is BAD, why are you here?
Re: New School for LGBT Students Opens in California [message #92640 is a reply to message #92624 ] Fri, 05 March 2010 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hmm indeed.

Ok, I'm no educator, Lanie this is your field, but part of me thinks this is not the solution.

Ok, everybody should have the right to an education free from intimidation, but I can't help thinking that the problem should be removing the bullies from the main stream, not isolating some students. The bullies will still be free to bully others ... the obese? Colored? Jews? Short people? Maybe they should all have separate schools?

Surely the bullies should be removed?
Re: New School for LGBT Students Opens in California [message #92645 is a reply to message #92640 ] Fri, 05 March 2010 17:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hilary wrote on Fri, 05 March 2010 16:45
Hmm indeed.

Ok, I'm no educator, Lanie this is your field, but part of me thinks this is not the solution.

Ok, everybody should have the right to an education free from intimidation, but I can't help thinking that the problem should be removing the bullies from the main stream, not isolating some students. The bullies will still be free to bully others ... the obese? Colored? Jews? Short people? Maybe they should all have separate schools?

Surely the bullies should be removed?

Actually identifying the children that bully and segregating them is a better plan.
However the bullies tend to be the guys who are the jocks. I am guessing poor skills with resolving the rage that T brings combined with narrow minded parents.
Re: New School for LGBT Students Opens in California [message #92663 is a reply to message #92645 ] Fri, 05 March 2010 17:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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However the bullies tend to be the guys who are the jocks.


Bullies have no self confidence and have to keep proving they are powerful. Society seems not to value their talents. Find a constructive use of their energy and they will follow the path that gives them a feeling of worth.

Are whole education system is a failure because it is making workers not human beings. The system is conditioning kids to obey orders and produce in a competitive world for money so the can continue to be consumers to feed the competitive world. Not a very good use of human qualities. But it does keep a few in power.
Re: New School for LGBT Students Opens in California [message #92680 is a reply to message #92547 ] Fri, 05 March 2010 19:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very interesting and good points made by all. Lisa, there is actually significant in school time, twice a week, in a very small class (4-5 students, I believe the article said), which allows for lots of attention to the student. Remember, most of these kids are starved for positive attention.

These few hours per week are WAY MORE than they would get in a regular school. Ask any teacher.

Also, it might be true that they are sort of doing this "in a vacuum" except for the fact that it has been put together by an already existing mentoring program in conjunction with a Gay and Lesbian Community Center. There are lots of opportunities for interaction. Having an LGBT and Allies prom is a very big deal, too!

Just think of the creativity we are developing (and saving). Just think of the youngsters who get to LEAD THEIR LIVES, and to have as much happiness as the next person. No more, no less.

Lastly, I believe the article mentions that this is a temporary measure. What is great about a charter school is that it does not have to follow the traditional pattern of a school. It can build into it's mission statement or operating procedures, a way to look at its efficacy on an annual or biannual basis, for example. It can have as a stated mission to put itself out of business!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnRqYMTpXHc

Here's my fan letter to the teacher:

From: Elaine (elainebac@hotmail.com)
Sent: Fri 3/05/10 9:59 PM
To: msircher@emsofl.com

Dear Molly,
I just read about the new Lifeworks school. I am so excited. If we don't already have one in the works in MDCPS (Miami FL), I am going to make it a point to do whatever it takes to get the "downtown" administrators to start looking at this as a real option!

Molly, two years ago we had a gay young man at my high school. He was troubled, from a non-accepting home environment. Mom and a sibling had already passed (I do not know the details). He was from a culture that has a VERY difficult time accepting GLBT people. He was a Best Buddy (http://bestbuddies.org/), which is how I met him. I am a speech-language pathologist for mentally handicapped students. He was the Best Buddy assigned to one of "my" students. We talked briefly on a field trip. We went to a mall and the kids went off with their buddies....the idea is for them to do "normal" things together. It is a great program. Lots of adult supervision in the form of teachers and paraprofessionals visible and available throughout the mall.

Well, I didn't see him after that. Turns out he had dropped out of school. No outreach. Dropped out is dropped out. He had been in counseling in school, but when he dropped out, he ceased to be "our" problem.

A couple of months later, I heard from the Best Buddies teacher that one of her Best Buddies students had committed suicide. "Was it the gay boy?" I asked. "How did you know?" she asked. "Sad to say, I just guessed. Gay kids have a high rate of suicide."

Had there been the option to go to a school like yours, I believe this young man's life would not have been lost. Not one more more bullied, beaten, self-annihilated youngster. G-d bless you and the work you do!

Lastly, someone I love very much is transsexual.

Smiles,
D. E. S. B
elainebac@hotmail.com
Re: New School for LGBT Students Opens in California [message #92689 is a reply to message #92547 ] Fri, 05 March 2010 20:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi Lanie. I am of two minds on this. The problem the kids face is from our society and its bigoted mentality fostered by political and religious ignorance. Since I do not see any redress of this in the next 200 years, then I suppose that a school like this is the next best thing. However, I do worry that it does not prepare the kids for entry into the larger world where they will still have to deal with the bigotry. All the education in the world does no good if the people who hire you or work with you are not accepting of diversity. Taken to its "logical" extreme, what's next, entire towns and cities composed of diversity friendly folks? Such separate but "equal" segregation was tried several generations ago and much more recently to take care of the "race" problem. Didn't work then either.

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Re: New School for LGBT Students Opens in California [message #92692 is a reply to message #92689 ] Fri, 05 March 2010 21:06 Go to previous message
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CarolynnL wrote on Fri, 05 March 2010 23:39
Hi Lanie. I am of two minds on this. The problem the kids face is from our society and its bigoted mentality fostered by political and religious ignorance. Since I do not see any redress of this in the next 200 years, then I suppose that a school like this is the next best thing. However, I do worry that it does not prepare the kids for entry into the larger world where they will still have to deal with the bigotry. All the education in the world does no good if the people who hire you or work with you are not accepting of diversity. Taken to its "logical" extreme, what's next, entire towns and cities composed of diversity friendly folks? Such separate but "equal" segregation was tried several generations ago and much more recently to take care of the "race" problem. Didn't work then either.

CarolynnL

Yes, Carolynn, I concede your point. My point is I don't want the kids to die. Dead kids don't get any chance at life. Too many dead kids. (1 is too many).

My answer to what's next? Happy kids. Did you know that studies of home schooled kids show that they are extremely well socialized? Yeah. And I have no worries about our junior members in that regard. Alive, they stand a chance anyway of becoming happy, well-adjusted, educated (so they can afford all the expensive medical stuff, etc.), gainfully employed, tax paying, VOTING.... let me say that one again....V O T I N G....members of society.

Hey, teachers, if you're out there, how about your thoughts??

LanieB
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