| Re: Therapy and Therapists [message #147030 is a reply to message #147024 ] |
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| Anonymous wrote on Thu, 11 August 2011 16:00 | If I'm feeling a bit 'randy' I'll go to my partner and see if she's up for some fun. If I'm feeling like I need to talk to someone I'll get a friend, family member or trans-positive minister to work things out. I find the idea of paying someone to talk to me as disgusting as the idea of paying someone to have sex with me.
A therapist is just another human being with no better insights or better life experiences then the homeless guy picking bottles out of my dumpster out back, in fact the homeless guy probably has better insights as he's struggled all of his life then some yuppie therapist charging $100/hour does.
Someone mentioned hormones are dangerous, whatever it's not like you're shooting heroin. If hormones are so incredibly dangerous (they're not if used properly) then it should be made easier to get them not more difficult by setting up a whole system so a bunch of people can make a living off ts people. Making it more difficult just makes more people turn to unofficial means to get them therefore increasing the risk. Like, if say abortions required a letter from a therapist and two psychiatrists to attain people would be doing abortions on their own and killing themselves.
Yes SRS is pretty much irreversible and many of the changes of hrt are irreversible after a certain stage. So? Micheal Jackson turned himself into an alien. It's my body. My body is the only thing I'm born with and truly own. I can do whatever I want to it. Doctors having fear of lawsuits is an excuse, you sign a simple consent form and they're off the hook for any legal repercussions, this is done for most major surgeries.
If you feel your problems are so incredible that you need to pay someone to talk to you, more power to you, go for it. When I decide if I want to do SRS, I'll get all the info from my friends and online about what the 'required' answers and action are to get in their to get it done and bluff my way through it. I'm not a child I don't need permission from mommy.
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Yup. Which is why I consulted with amateurs prior to my SRS. Damn blood sucking vampires.  Who needs 'professionals' when it comes to health, happiness and well being? 
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| Re: Therapy and Therapists [message #147031 is a reply to message #147024 ] |
Fri, 12 August 2011 00:37 |
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| Anonymous wrote on Thu, 11 August 2011 22:00 | If I'm feeling a bit 'randy' I'll go to my partner and see if she's up for some fun. If I'm feeling like I need to talk to someone I'll get a friend, family member or trans-positive minister to work things out. I find the idea of paying someone to talk to me as disgusting as the idea of paying someone to have sex with me.
A therapist is just another human being with no better insights or better life experiences then the homeless guy picking bottles out of my dumpster out back, in fact the homeless guy probably has better insights as he's struggled all of his life then some yuppie therapist charging $100/hour does.
Someone mentioned hormones are dangerous, whatever it's not like you're shooting heroin. If hormones are so incredibly dangerous (they're not if used properly) then it should be made easier to get them not more difficult by setting up a whole system so a bunch of people can make a living off ts people. Making it more difficult just makes more people turn to unofficial means to get them therefore increasing the risk. Like, if say abortions required a letter from a therapist and two psychiatrists to attain people would be doing abortions on their own and killing themselves.
Yes SRS is pretty much irreversible and many of the changes of hrt are irreversible after a certain stage. So? Micheal Jackson turned himself into an alien. It's my body. My body is the only thing I'm born with and truly own. I can do whatever I want to it. Doctors having fear of lawsuits is an excuse, you sign a simple consent form and they're off the hook for any legal repercussions, this is done for most major surgeries.
If you feel your problems are so incredible that you need to pay someone to talk to you, more power to you, go for it. When I decide if I want to do SRS, I'll get all the info from my friends and online about what the 'required' answers and action are to get in their to get it done and bluff my way through it. I'm not a child I don't need permission from mommy.
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Most of the people who the media points out as failures and uses to try and discredit transition are people like you. People who thought they knew better than everyone else and lied there way through the system. In the end you're only short-changing yourself and setting yourself for possible failure. Yes, there are some not so great therapists out there, but
A good therapist is worth their weight in gold.
They will help you navigate the minefield of transition and maximize your chances of success. In my experience the people who claim to not need therapy are precisely the ones who need it the most.
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| Re: Therapy and Therapists [message #147046 is a reply to message #147031 ] |
Fri, 12 August 2011 10:18 |
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haha good luck to you all, I personally don't have $200 a month to waste on some bum that has less of an education then I do to work out my problems. My minister can talk to me for free and actually cares about his congregation. More power to ya, keep that tounge firmly planted up the psychiatric professions bunghole and let them tell you what you can and can't do with your own body, and how to dress and act if it works for you. I've actually learned that you can bribe a psychiatrist in various Asian countries to get the required paperwork so guess I'll be saving up some money.
Yes I know better then everyone else about what I want and need because in fact I am myself. Yes the person that knows the best about what you want is in fact you. Psychology is nothing but a religion that makes value judgements and considers human beings to be behavioral processes and chemical reactions, we are no more then animals. Psychiatrists don't even know exactly what the pills they give out do. Remember the anti-depressants they found that increase the risk of suicide in youths. Butchering children, right on real professionals! Hey, the lawsuit against eli lilly for zyprexa they payed out 1.42 billion dollars. Geez I can line up a bunch of dangerous medications and give them out at random to people until one works.
Sorry if you're all dysphoric and confused about who you are and what you want. Maybe you all need to get on the phone with your mommies and daddies and be told what to do?
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| Re: Therapy and Therapists [message #147079 is a reply to message #147062 ] |
Sat, 13 August 2011 03:00 |
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Angry, hmmmm at this point I'm not sure what emotion I should be feeling. Should I feel pity for a group of people that need to pay someone thousands upon thousands of dollars to figure out who they are and how they should live or should I be amused?
Wow, only $200 a month, what vanity. Could feed two or three families on that or maybe pay for a dozen children to get antibiotics for leprosy.
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| Re: Therapy and Therapists [message #154968 is a reply to message #147033 ] |
Sat, 31 December 2011 01:35 |
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| Derrie wrote on Fri, 12 August 2011 05:11 |
| Quote: | In my experience the people who claim to not need therapy are precisely the ones who need it the most.
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I've noticed that also. :?
What's that about?
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<laughing> I guess then that I am a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. I personally did not have much use for a therapist and I am happy to see the changes to the therapy role in the new SOC. I needed my surgery letter and that is what I got. I have a friend who is a therapist and who does do a lot of gender related therapy. I saw her a couple times in her office to create a paper trail, told her when my surgery was scheduled and she wrote my letter. I never had a "hormone letter", my OB/Gyn simply prescribed them for me.
I am not saying that therapy is unnecessary, just that the need for it is overrated. I know quite a few people who have transitioned into being openly gay, genderqueer and/or transgender. They all seem to be pretty happy, stable and they did not go through therapy. I know others who, due to their religious upbringing, felt a lot of shame and guilt over their desire for gender transition or homosexuality and they needed a LOT of therapy. There are some people who need help in dealing with family relationships and others who just breeze right through the whole coming out process.
Gracie
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| Re: Therapy and Therapists [message #154977 is a reply to message #101800 ] |
Sat, 31 December 2011 07:35 |
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| Quote: | <laughing> I guess then that I am a ticking time bomb waiting to go off.
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Wow....took you long enough to catch on to that!!!!
Happy New Year!
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