| Re: BL Alternatives |
Sat, 22 January 2011 14:03 |
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| Lauren wrote on Fri, 22 January 2010 22:47 | I see several of the forums listed here are for younger people only. That can be good or bad, depending on your viewpoint.
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The opinion of TrueSelves is simply that there are a lot of boards already dominated by Boomer transitions and at the time they came into being, younger transitioners did not have a voice. The older generations would dominate whatever discussion was playing out.
I don't see it as a "loss," it's not like there are not venues where various generations can interact and we can learn from each other. But I think it's wise to have places where EVERYONE has an opportunity to feel like they fit in, their needs are similar to the other needs in the group, and they can speak up without being told immediately that their approach is wrong or illegitimate.
I'm Gen X. A lot of that board now is Gen Y/Z. There are a few of us there who have transitioned and/or had surgery, and are also parents of teens... There are just enough of us to provide a nice balance to the teenage transitioner without a parental perspective (so we can say, "Maybe they were thinking <this> when they responded to your transition <like that>" but we're still able to grasp where they're at. Honestly, they ARE very different from me, even if I can basically get where they're coming from. Gen X is between Boomer and Gen Y for a reason, we are a blend of the generations on either side. The younger ones have a much more communally diverse and unboundaried approach to life, and there are no boxes or "right ways" to do something.
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| Re: BL Alternatives |
Fri, 22 January 2010 19:47 |
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I see several of the forums listed here are for younger people only. That can be good or bad, depending on your viewpoint.
I'm 58 years old and I cannot join those boards. Perhaps I wouldn't relate to the younger crowd? I doubt that. There are things we all go through and sometimes the perspective of age gives us a more balanced view.
Whatever. I can't keep track of more than a couple of boards on any regular basis. I have a life to live.
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| Re: BL Alternatives |
Thu, 07 August 2008 05:14 |
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Well it seems that True selves is moreso a Gen Y site but I don't really know that. I see more of a distinction between boomers and Gen Y than Gen X and boomers. I am a very young boomer (thanks to the artiface of dates) and nearly all my friends are Gen x'ers who I have as much or more in common than with my boomer peers.
So..I dunno. I prolly wouldn't want to participate in T.S. because I want the young folk to have their own 'clubhouse' plus relating to a teenager is only something I do when I have to 
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| Re: BL Alternatives |
Fri, 25 July 2008 20:30 |
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There is basically no such thing as genderphuck anymore, it's all transition. Some people like to play with gender but they still have a gender they identify with. Actually it's always been that way with few exceptions.
Heli mentioned how people who aren't able to pass or go full-time might get unfairly lumped in with genderphuck and she is right. I think it comes down to intention but how do you moderate intention?
Transsexuals deny themselves for a period of time and then when they begin to transition they basically focus all of their attention on themselves. They can seem very narcissistic at times, in fact another transsexual friend of mine who is older was convinced that they are narcissistic. I tried to explain to her that it is like a second or compounded adolescence rather than narcissism. But when you have a lot of younger transsexuals who worship beauty, youth and who see older transsexuals or later transitioners as creepy old autogynephiles, because of their age difference... I think it is better in that case to have a website where the older transitioners are kept out for their own protection.
As one of my real life younger M2F associates used to say, "younger transsexuals are only creepy on the inside." I don't necessarily agree with her, I am just using her example to give you an idea of the mind set or the ageism.
With luck they will all be older one day also, let that be their curse
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| Re: BL Alternatives |
Fri, 04 July 2008 12:31 |
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Nobody gets THAT old 
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| Re: BL Alternatives |
Fri, 04 July 2008 05:40 |
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| NorthernJane wrote on Fri, 04 July 2008 07:42 |
| Josie wrote on Fri, 02 May 2008 20:34 |
Also, while we do have many more members in their late teens and early twenties than most other trans forums, we have plenty of Gen-X members in their thirties (or even early forties) too. We are happy that we've created a space where teenagers feel safe, but we aren't just for teens.
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That's strange. A couple of years ago I applied for membership and was told I wasn't eligible because I was too old - I am now 58. I transitioned at 24, in 1974, and thought I could help. Nope, door closed.
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It's not just age at transition... You know they are now (in theory at least) accepting members who transitioned at the same age I did who's situation often has more in common with what mine was than someone who is a teen or in their early 20's.
It's also IMO about more standard generational interests/commonality/social climate/attitude stuff (though those generalization based on age are often way off base for individual persons)..
And Xers are supposed to hate boomers, don't ya know!
I personally believe the more we divide along artificial lines like age, the poorer we all are.
But we will get even... They will get older too!
- Karen
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| Re: BL Alternatives |
Sat, 03 May 2008 03:15 |
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I was once an active member in Trueselves forum. I found that it was for far younger people than I am (44). There is much philosophical discussion. I felt lonely there because I found that my issues were not similar to the population there. Partly because of my foreigner status, partly because of my situation in my life. I still live in the same family where I lived before my transition. Trueselves is not the best forum for transsexuals who have had much investments in their previous life as a male but there is no discrimination towards that people either. I think it is the best forum available for young people who have not invested much in their male life.
Edit: I would also be careful when suspecting the so called gender fuck. I know that some individuals see gender lines that they want to challenge them. But the gender line can be also close to an individual who has difficulties in passing/assimilation or cannot change her position related to her gender in some environments. I see that in every transition your mileage may vary and are we worthy to judge each others transition? Instead of support we get friendly fire.
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| Re: BL Alternatives |
Fri, 02 May 2008 20:01 |
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| Josie wrote on Fri, 02 May 2008 20:34 |
| Administration wrote on Thu, 01 May 2008 23:06 |
http://forum.trueselves.com/ <-- TG rainbow related forums but only GenX or younger. Some recommend it highly for younger teenage individuals.
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I appreciate the link, but as a mod and active participant at TrueSelves, I'm a bit puzzled by the description.
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So mainly that it's for transitioners and not the TG rainbow? So genderfuck folk aren't part of the forum? I must have been misinformed and will gladly reword if I was wrong. Please confirm.
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